So activities in the house-hold were for my sister to go to a new school. She was having lots of new clothes, new things and I was 6 and looking on with green eyes. One day, probably whilst in the kitchen, after being given wrong for something and very likely not long after being belted for breaking the tip of my brothers sheath knife, I told my mum that she didn’t love me and proceeded to tell her that it was because they’d sent my brother to boarding school and would be sending my sister as well. I was jealous of my siblings and wanted a share of this boarding school action.
Discussions obviously took place when my dad returned from work and all I remember is that we were looking at where I could go. It was all a bit of a rush job as I only visited the school that I ended up attending. It was an hour outside of London, at the north coast of Kent, Grenham House in Birchington.
After visiting the school and thinking that it was fantastic, it had a large sports field, a tennis court and was close to the beach. I was really excited to be going to this place. In the forth coming months I was going shopping, being measured for clothing and receiving loads of new stuff: what 6 year old wouldn’t love all this?
I don’t remember much about the day I started but can remember components of my years here. We had 6 classes, these were split up roughly between year groups, I ended up being moved at the end of every year, I didn’t know if this was a promotion but I do remember doing really well in the exams and coming in the top 3 of the class. I was never first in English as I remember the guy always received a book. I did come first in Maths however I don’t remember receiving anything apart from acknowledgement from the headmaster.
Class 6 was the youngsters, we had a teacher called Miss McKenzie ( I don’t know how I remember that, maybe I was obsessed) who wore floral dresses. One memory is that we’d ask her to retrieve stuff off the higher shelves, she’d end up standing on the desk to reach and I’d peak up her dress: on one occasion she had on matching flowery panties. I guess this was when my interest in the female anatomy sparked.
We had a school bell that was rung to let the pupils playing outside it was time to go in for the night. On this memorable occasion it was summer and there were quite a few kids out playing, the bell went signifying to the first years that they had to go in. This boy ran past us and was heading inside when he ran into the side of a wall, being kids we thought this was funny and giggled. He didn’t move and so we proceeded to carry him to the nurse. There were at least eight boys trying to move him and it was decided to send a runner to inform the nurse that we were on our way and what had happened. We continued moving this boy and then someone noticed a wet patch increasing in his groin area. This caused hilarity amongst us kids and once we’d regained our composure proceeded to take this boy to the nurse. We ended up bumping his head a couple of times, once on the steps leading to the nurse’s room. We delivered this boy to the nurse and then headed off to prepare for bed. We were told in assembly the next morning that this boy had died, I can’t remember his name but they built a library in his memory.
I was really fortunate that I was introduced to hockey here, I was 7 when I first picked up a stick, I wasn’t immediately fantastic and had to wait until I was 8 to find out that this was the sport for me. At 11 years I was playing for the 1st XI, they were all 12 and 13 years of age. There was one match, played annually, were we were playing a ladies under 18’s team. This match was against the Westgate Ladies and a write up was always in the local paper. We lost 1-3 but I did score and for the first time was reading read my name in the newspaper as one of the goal scorers.
It was here that I met my oldest mate of whom I'm still in touch, even if it is occasionally, and am connected through Facebook. We last saw each other at 16, as we ended up going to the same secondary school.
I was 10 years old and therefore planning to move on to secondary school. I had to sit examinations to be invited into the school. I passed these as well as my 11+. The 11+ was an examination taken prior to attending secondary school and identified if you went to a grammar school. Thankfully I didn’t need my 11+ and it was only I who bothered that I passed; perhaps I should stop using this as a qualification, now.
I moved on from Grenham House at the end of the school year all excited about entering the Duke of York’s Royal Military School. I wonder why I ended up in the army.


The guy you were talking about hit his head on the side of the shed where we used to keep our hockey sticks.
ReplyDeleteFunny the stuff you remember after 40 years.
Simon Davies
Was his surname Woods?
DeleteHello Simon do you remember the African lads Timmi mamooni and his brother kunle , and zaid Dukamijo, also Nigeria boneylamb.
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I remember them
DeleteHi Tony
ReplyDeleteI remember you, but can't remember your face even after looking at the pictures.
Sorry to hear about your health problems, wish you well and hope things improve.
I remember the incident you mention, the boy's name was Mark Woods, and after his death it was discovered that he had an undiagnosed fatal condition, can't remember exactly what but I do remember being told that he would not have survived for long. I was in the sickbay when it happened, so didn't see it at close hand. Must have been late 1975 or maybe early 1976. I remember Meg Stringer the matron being in tears over it because she couldn't do anything to help. The corner of the building was very solid, it was made of brieze blocks and there was no give in that at all.
I was at Grenham from 1974 to 1976, and it's difficult to grasp now that it was only 8 years after I left that the school closed. The site now has a retirement complex on it and the playing field houses and bungalows. One of them is named "Out of Bounds".
Anway, enough nostalgia from me, hope things go your way!
Should have said my name is Brian Morrison, you wouldn't recognise my Google ID!
ReplyDeleteBrian Morrison... how the devil? Are you still obsessed with trains?? Back to Tony's write up which was quite a trip down memory lane, if I remember it correctly, Mark Woods' father was a chopper pilot in the British Army and based on the Rhine. Unbelievably tragic but we were all kids then - presumably most of us are parents now - and the Wood family must have suffered terribly; to say nothing of Meg Stringer and presumably Tomcat and all the staff. I seem to remember that the Wood family donated an early form of video machine to allow us to watch science and other films, which was kept under command of Miss West in the Lab. Meanwhile, Miss MacKenzie was, if I remember correctly, an American teacher spending a year across in the UK. Question for Tony Jenner.... did the army become your long term career, just curious as to which Regiment/ Corps you served with. rgds to all Peter MacDonald
DeleteHello Peter, I hope you and Robert are both well.
DeleteNo, trains came and went, and these days I so rarely use them that I have forgotten pretty much all I once knew, but then in your late 50s that isn't too unusual.
Nice to see a few people adding to Tony's page, have to confess that I was not expecting that and it's almost a decade since I posted here last.
Brian Morrison,did you have curly hair?maybe light or reddish?
DeleteBrian Morrison - Why yes I remember you. Curly hair, glasses - Hmmm, I wonder if you'll contact me via my email directly teej.1966@gmail.com
DeleteWas just googling "Grenham House" and came across this blog. I was at Grenham 1960-63 and can recall many of the teaching staff such as "Mr Denys" Jeston (headmaster), Mr Lidgate, Major Harris, Mr Laycock and Mr Black who married Miss White (very amusing to a 10 year old). Also Miss Collins the head matron who used to prowl the dormitories shouting in her broad Irish accent "stop all that talking!"
ReplyDeleteI did win the English prize in my final year and my dad donated a cup for future winners of this prestigious competition!
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ReplyDeleteMy time at Grenham coincided in part with that of the previous responder. While there are some aspects of the school that I liked, there were others that I disliked intensely.
ReplyDeleteDenys Jeston was the most sarcastic person I have ever come across. He was cruel in that he made up nicknames for some of the boys. One boy I remember in particular, who happened to be slightly small for his age, he nicknamed Half Pint. I dreaded Denys's Latin lessons because of his extreme sarcasm and the fact that I did not like the subject.
The oldest of the three Suchet brothers, all of whom went to Grenham, wrote an article in the Daily Mail several years ago about his time there. I don't agree with everything he wrote but it is substantially correct.
There was, however, a brilliant English teacher called Ben Adams. He was extremely distinctive in that he was nearly seven feet tall, a giant of a man. He must have been only in his early 20s when he started at Grenham and he quickly saw the inadequacies of the school. He gave of his time extremely generously, even though he was newly married and a young father. He taught many boys to swim, improved the library no end by persuading Denys to spend money on new books, introduced boys to classical music and also made games fun for those who did not have a natural sporting bent. I think he was the best teacher I ever encountered in my school days.
Another thing I remember about the school is just how cold it was in the winter months. The central heating was extremely poor and in a very cold snap in early 1958 there was substantial snow. The building was almost as cold inside as it was outside but somehow we survived. I don't think parents or children would put up with those conditions these days, certainly not if they were paying the amount now demanded for private education.
Ben Adams, didn't he marry that pretty young matron? My problem though, and I went to the school as a member of Haig house, was Lidgate. What was his first name. After all, he did feel me up for two years at least. Should know his christian name.
ReplyDeleteHis first name was Jack
Deleteit was Peter Summers who used to wear that blue stripey blazer - he married Sue Reece (or was it Rees). I don't remember Ben Adams at all though
DeleteMr Adams left the school in about 1971 I started at the school on Tuesday 14th September 1971.i remember every second of that day so dramatic. Mr Summers married miss Reece in 1973 I think. We bought her a food mixer as a wedding present.every boy had to make a donation towards it
DeleteBen Adams was already married when he started at Grenham in 1958 or 59.
DeleteTook Joseph Oesaie and friends to the local ice cream shop with my dad Flt. Lt. W W Mather, who I called sir, for knickerbocker glories. Got the junior scholarship prize that year. Yay!!!! Still!, my remembrance was Lidgate feeling my butt when he marked my math. Cannot get that out of my mind. Maybe his Christian name would help. By the by, doing very well and living in the US. Please contact me for help????!!!!!
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ReplyDeleteI attended Grenham 1972 to 76.I certainly do recognize a couple of the writers.My name is Sean Warner and by the way Tony I don't know if you remember me but I went to your parents house with you for half term once as my parents lived abroad.So I do thank you for that.There certainly was a great bond between the majority of the student,especially as some of us were so far from home.By the way,yes the Jack Lidgate incidents were totally unacceptable.The behaviour of the man who held high authority in the School as assistant headmaster, would be considered criminal.Luckily it did not happen to me as I was a fairly large kid and he seemed to gravitate toward the smaller ones.I think the majority of the victims were too innocent to realise the severity of what was being done to them.Otherwise I do hold some memories as precious,the christmas dinners,the sports,the Teachers(Some of who'm I truly admired,such as Major Nelson)and the friendships I acquired while attending there.
ReplyDeleteGood to hear from you Sean. How is Dean? I notice that my postings get marked "anonymous" This is Peter MacDonald (one of the twins)..... hope you are well.
DeleteDoing well Peter,have been living in Canada since the age of sixteen.Dean also lives in Canada(province of ontario) How is Robert. Do you still live in reasonably close proximity to Birchington? Are you on regular Facebook? If you look me up I'm in Brantford Ontario you can find me on Facebook. A few pictures may come up. Mine is of my girlfriend and I at the beach. I became an avid competitive bodybuilder so that'll probably be the picture that pops up so If you friend request me I'll accept. Great to hear from you,cheers
DeleteFortunately I was never touched up by Jack Lidgate but to see boys being abused by him was common. He did it in front of the whole class after he had called the unfortunate short-trousered victim to his side to explain a point. Caroline, Lidgate's daughter, was about my age and some of us fancied her.
ReplyDeleteMy parents always fell sorry for him because of his hearing problem. He wore a large hearing aid with a wire running down the side of his neck to the batteries.
The school certainly had its good points, such as the very small number of pupils in each class and the high academic standards. However, I felt it was very much in the past. Lights out, for even 12 and 13 year olds, was 8pm.
There were a succession of single male live-in teachers who never seemed to remain at the school for more than a term or two. With the benefit of adulthood I think that some of them were up to no good. I certainly remember one incident involving such a teacher who picked on the wrong pupil. The latter contacted his parents to complain. They spoke to Denys Jeston and the teacher left very suddenly in the middle of term. It was all hushed up by Denys who announced to the pupils that the teacher had departed but gave no reason. The bush telegraph was well aware.
Was the teacher in question Mr Euan Smith in early 1972
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DeleteI was at Grenham 1968-1973, and was head boy in my final term, at the time Eve Jeston died. All very sudden. I remember having to sit next to Denys on that day. very disturbing. Jack Lidgate would be locked up if he were alive today. Major Nelson, Harry Hollingsworth and Mr Sumner. Legends!! Enjoyed my time there, but to be sent away to boarding school at the age of 8? No thank you.
ReplyDeleteI remember that day. if you were the head boy I sat opposite you waiting, still remember the silence and confusion and hoping that I was still going to get a piece of toast. Cane'd twice once by Jack the Ripper for not paying attention in maths and once by men-as you silly arse Denys Jeston for throwing a snow ball at John Sackett we would have called him a different name thankfully times have changed. Great memories and with Yorkshire's finest coach Harry Hollingworth how could we fail.
DeleteIs this David Taylor by any chance?
DeleteAre u Duncan willis
DeleteAfter leaving Grenham I went to a minor public school. There were paedophiles among the teachers there too.
ReplyDeleteThe biology master sometimes took an unfortunate boy in to the semi-darkened room where the fish tanks were. He then pressed his clothed but excited self against the boy's backside.
Hopefully kids are more aware these days and anyone such as Lidgate or the biology teacher would be reported to the police promptly.
I was there from 65 to 69,a and always remember the beatings and the cold,my saving grace was that I was the quickest boy in the school,and I won major colours in all the sports, richard latham
ReplyDeleteInteresting comments in the light of louis de Berniere's revelations. I was in the Haig 59 to 66. Agree that Ben Adams was a brilliant teacher and I liked Major Nelson and his Messerschmitt bubble car. Mr Laycock introduced me to my life long love of cricket. But I hope Jack Lidgate, Denys Jeston and Ms Collins are burning in hell.
ReplyDeleteI was in Haig. I was there from 1961-1966 age 8 to 13 at that age I remember throwing up at the gate when being dropped back to school. Lots of bad memories. Very few good ones. Excitement when the bomb squad arrived to check out a bomb that was discovered. That article brought back memories of that hell of a place. I think I will go throw up now.
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DeleteI was there from 79-83 and was aware of both jeston n old jacks behaviour but fortunate to have only received the cane once!! But my memories were mainly favourable until the new owners with Major Nelson my favourite teacher and I remember Hollingsworth teaching me cricket strokes for hours lol..
ReplyDeleteI was there from 79-83 and was aware of both jeston n old jacks behaviour but fortunate to have only received the cane once!! But my memories were mainly favourable until the new owners with Major Nelson my favourite teacher and I remember Hollingsworth teaching me cricket strokes for hours lol..
ReplyDeleteI am very upset by the recent press about Grenham House. I was there from 1955-1960. I was very happy there. I got a good education and ended up as head boy. Jeston was extremely proud of his school. Of course he had his faults - who does not - but what went on the the 50s and what is acceptable now are worlds apart, and it is very unfair to single Grenham out. OK he beat me exactly as has been reported, but I was beaten several years later at Charterhouse by the head prefect of my house - is that any better? I never had Lidgate's attentions, which are completely unacceptable, but it goes on even to this day in many institutions. There were a string of prep schools along the Kent coast - Wellington House, wellesley House, Canterbury House and Tormore but Grenham was considered one of the best. If the author of the articles were not happy there, they maybe should not have been sent to boarding school at such an early age, but to tar the school's reputation in this way is unacceptable and inaccurate, Francis Norton
ReplyDeleteI remember you at Grenham and I agree with you regarding canings at Grenham. However, aside from that it was the paedophilia that was so wrong and I don't just mean from Jack Lidgate. A boy could easily have spent four or five years as a boarder there and been totally unaware of what was going on. Others, myself included, were well aware but I count myself lucky that I was not a victim.
DeleteWell i was there with L de Bernieres and concur with everything he says. I too was Head Boy, but the school was brutal and went far beyond what was considered normal even then. It deserves everything that is being said and more.
ReplyDeleteHi Francis,
DeleteThe comments contain the bad and negative tones and not the author of the original article, please note that in the original blog, sorry that you took it this way, I really benefited from going to Grenham and Mr Jetson.... http://tony-jenner-tonysworld.blogspot.com/2011/03/and-so-my-time-of-living-at-home-came.html?m=1
All the best,
Tony
I was there with Louis de Bernieres and Richard Vine (and my two elder brothers went to Grenham before me). I'm still in touch with Louis, who coincidentally was later at university with my wife, so I knew his press piece was coming. Quite simply, there are no words to describe the physical and sexual abuse and utter horror of the place. However, for me, personally, the boy to boy bullying was by far the worst.
DeleteHi Peter, I'm hoping to make it back to UK next summer and it would be great to meet up with Louis and some of the other survivors of our era!
DeleteA meet-up next year is a great idea Richard! Where are you returning from?
DeleteI would reiterate Francis Norton's comments. I was at Grenham from '56 to '59. Perhaps starting at the school as a rumbustious 10 year old made me more equipped for the regime. I have no knowledge whatever of paedophilia, although it may have gone on. All I know is that Jeston's teaching of Latin has served me to this day. Miss Shrapnel -sorry Miss Sharpe's French ditto. And a fact not mentioned before. I remember clearly the 1st form current affairs lesson being taken by Jeston. What's an ICBM, Sir? we asked about the acronym he had written on the blackboard. Hardly 3 years later as a youth, I needed to know exactly what that meant, when the world stood on the brink in 1962 at Cuba. Both last Sunday and yesterday, the Sunday Times has gone to town over the abuse and the beatings. I don't deny things were different then and I also feel for those who say that the schooling discipline has affected their adult lives. All I can say is, it didn't affect me aversely - in fact quite the reverse and it would be good if the Sunday Times were to present the other side of the coin. I suspect they would have plenty of contributors. And one more thing. Looking at the lack of discipline and violence in todays' society - is it better now than 50 years ago? Timothy Carpenter
ReplyDeleteI've lived in Thailand for 15 years. My email is richard@huahinsailing.com. Send me a message.
ReplyDeleteIf any of you old boys feel like getting in touch just to catch up or to reminisce in general,just look me up on Facebook. Just enter Sean Warner,Brantford Ontario.Would be great to hear from you
ReplyDeleteHi Sean I remember u and your brother Dean. You were originally from Africa and you're dad drove a Hillman inp I think. You and your brother liked playing cricket
DeleteWe actually lived in Africa for a short period of time before moving to Abu Dhabi as our father was an oil consultant. As you're marked as "Unknown " may I ask your name?
DeleteHi,
DeleteWas this question aimed at myself ?
I remember a couple of friends/brothers, that lived in Nigeria, was that yourselves?
Tony Jenner
TIMOTHY HUNT.
ReplyDeleteI was at GH from 1958-63, starting as we all did at Sheltwood, with the Lidgates, and their daughter Caroline. Generally I was happy there, though Half and quarter term exeats were always hard as my parents were stationed in Germany and mostly did not come over to take me out.
My mates there included Christopher Fitzgerald, Jeff Meyer, Guy House, Frank Tipples, Chippy Barker, and a boy with a double barrelled name whose Dad was a RAF officer...
My memories of the reported behaviour of Mr. Lidgate and Dennis Jeston is that it is unfortunately accurate, from personal experience.
I was in Beatty house.
Tim Hunt.
I had some fantastic pictures of Grenham house bieng demolished in Late 1985 if anyone wishes to see them they are in the Birchington heritage centre at Birchington library
ReplyDeleteI attended grenham House boarding school 1975-19777. My name is Anton King. My best friends there were Akastaie mother, stephan gunn, and I remember a lad called Julian Swayland who was Total git.
DeleteMy Brother was Sammy King.
DeleteHi Anton, vaguely remember you, but Stefan Gunn, i kept in touch with him when he left. We lived in the same area, Farnborough. Still have friends in that area, he still lives there, haven't seen him for around 20 yrs. I'd always admire how Stef could play the old piano just by listening to a bit of music. I was in Beatty.
Deletehi Richard, i was there with you guys, Filippo Zito, I would love to get in contact with Stefan Gunn, could say my best mate. my e-mail filippo.zito@gmail.com
DeleteAnd the friend was called Alastair mather.
ReplyDeleteMiss Collins, the no nonsense Irish woman who was head matron when I was at Grenham, entertained the boys who were leaving on their final full day to cakes and soft drinks. This was after Denys gave us the facts of life talk. As a final parting gesture she handed out a cigarette to each of us. Having never tried one before, I coughed and coughed as I attempted to smoke it. Now when I see my GP or one of the practice nurses, I am usually asked if I smoke or have ever done so. Truthfully I reply "yes'' and then say it was the matron at school who gave me my only cigarette. The look of horror on their faces is a picture.
ReplyDeleteI attended 1978-1980. I would be interested in chatting with anyone during that period ukmobility@icloud.com
ReplyDeleteI recall Peter “potty” bridgford. Sheram parvezy. Philipo Zito. Justin Hardwick. Lance Jenner (any relation Tony?). Miles Wiseman. Mark Priest. Bushell twins Scott and grant, jeffrey broomfield (his brother whose name i forget). Andrew williamson. Justin Topham. Jason Dackombe. Abed sannounaki. Simon Smith Charles Eaglebot. Anyone who remembers my short spell at Grenham, please get in contact.
Teacher Mr Wall, who was a good tennis coach also and who accompanied the skiing trip to Italy, which was great fun for this street urchin from London. My first and only experience of Latin was at Grenham at the hands of Jeston and I still remember how to conjugate my verbs Amo Amas Silly Ass!!! Major Nelson was a great character as was Hollingsworth who gave me some great Cricket Skills. Mr Smith a very down to earth Carpentry teacher with great skills and a good teaching manner. I cannot for the life of me remember the guy who taught Judo but they were great evenings being theown around the matts! I witnessed Jack Lidgate up to his Pedophilic behavior…unsavoury character. I boarded for a few months whilst we transitioned from London to Birchington and the house (one of the Rosetti Coach houses) in Spencer road was ready to move into, became a day (gay, as i was refered to at this change) boy!! Jason Dackombe and I had a fight, I chased him round the changing room brandishing a studded boot in my hand (which if i had caught him i dread to think what i would have done). Jason must have taken the threat fairly seriously as he ran away from school for a few days!! Sorry mate. We later met at st Augustines in Westgate and the hatchet was buried i am glad to report!
Any other smokers in out of bounds I wonder….
Ps Marcus et Sextus anyone….
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